—At the moment 25 years in the past that Actual Zaragoza conquered the Recopa. It’s a big day for you, proper?-Undoubtedly. It was a day that modified my life, not solely me, however all that group of gamers and training employees. It was an unimaginable second as a result of of how all the things occurred, particularly the final seconds of the match.“Inside the confinement restrictions, how are you going to have a good time it?”“He caught me right here in Zaragoza, alone at residence, so we’ll have a good time when that is over.” I think about that we are going to all get collectively to have a good time and bear in mind these moments and that point.—If it hadn’t been for the virus, the celebration might have been in La Romareda and with the promotion at stake.—The staff was nice as a result of of the way it was enjoying and the constructive dynamics it was in, so it seemed prefer it was very near promotion right now and to have the ability to have a good time each. Now the most essential factor is well being first and getting out of this example and secondly, earlier than celebrating the anniversary of the Recopa, reaching promotion. It’s what we want now, to return to take pleasure in the highest class, from which Zaragoza ought to by no means have left. This circumstance has come like this, which has caught us all with our ft modified, however I hope that after we get out of this we are able to have a good time each.—At the starting of the confinement, Teledeporte broadcast the Recopa closing and had an viewers of 357,000 spectators. Have been you shocked by that quantity?-Sure. It’s superb what that staff represented for a way properly we performed soccer and the way the sport ended. It was a particular finale for the motion itself, in the final second of additional time when everybody anticipated penalties, and it’s true that I was pleasantly shocked that so many individuals watched the match. That provides you to grasp the significance of that second, not just for Actual Zaragoza, however for all Spanish soccer.“Did you see it too?”—Sure, all of us noticed it in the Recopa. We’ve got a chat and we had been commenting play by play. We noticed it complete and the reality is that we had a good time. We messed with one another when one failed and it was an unimaginable factor to recall these moments with our colleagues once more. As well as, many individuals wrote to me that day and it was a pleasant factor to recollect, particularly chatting minute by minute with all my colleagues from the Recopa.—The best way of the Recopa started on April 20, 1994 with the conquest of the fourth Zaragoza Cup. The subsequent day, at the celebration in the Plaza del Pilar, Cedrún promised the Recopa. What did you assume at the time?“I thought he was loopy.” Have you ever seen the groups which can be in the Recopa? However that is Cedrún, it got here from his soul and in the finish all of us who thought he was buzzed needed to agree with him. He’s a unprecedented man, with an enormous coronary heart, and I don’t know if he received carried away by the euphoria. He mentioned no, that he knew what he was saying, and I can solely say that he was proper.—Gloria Bistrita, Tatran Presov, Feyenoord and Chelsea till reaching the closing towards Arsenal. What do you bear in mind of every tie and which do you assume was the most complex?—In entrance of Gloria Bistrita we performed our first sport in Europe, towards a decrease staff than ours, however it appeared that you just had been enjoying a pleasant, since the area was not in excellent situation and there have been only a few folks. And we misplaced. It was additionally very unusual to should play residence video games in Valencia in the first two heats. For sure the hardest rival was Feyenoord. We needed to win with solvency there, since we performed our greatest sport, and right here at residence it value us till Pardeza’s goal. After that goal we calmed down and had been superior. I additionally bear in mind the struggling at Stamford Bridge. We already knew what English soccer was at the moment, very bodily and onerous, and we knew the way to undergo regardless of having important losses, similar to that of Aguado and Poyet. With the Aragón goal we returned to relax once more and play our soccer. And already the closing, besides in the first half hour, because it was tough for us to enter the match, we had been a lot superior and I have at all times mentioned that we must always have solved the match a lot earlier as a consequence of the quantity of alternatives we had, however there was a goalkeeper in entrance of us . Every tie had its difficulties, however we at all times knew the way to pull it off.—How did you reside the days earlier than the closing?—It was an atypical week, with many journalists in all coaching classes, with many interviews, with many associates who name you… I additionally known as a buddy I had in England to learn how Arsenal was doing at the time. It was an uncommon week, however at the identical time thrilling and we confronted it with so much of want to play the closing, which for a lot of of us was the first at European stage. For me, in truth, the just one. It was unimaginable that week, particularly the pleasure of the individuals who stopped you on the road and inspired you.“Have been you in a position to sleep the night time earlier than?”—I’m one of those that falls KO at bedtime. I don’t normally watch the sport the night time earlier than, however the identical day. I slept peacefully, clearly eager to get up the subsequent day and begin residing the closing from breakfast with my colleagues. The night time earlier than was quiet, however on the day of the sport there are a lot of feelings that go by means of your thoughts. There are additionally family and friends who name you. It was an unimaginable expertise.“What apprehensive you most about Arsenal?”“His bodily energy.” We knew that they had been very aggressive and that they pushed so much and really properly. They had been the present champions, so we knew about their energy, however we had been very assured in our soccer. I bear in mind Victor’s message earlier than the begin of the extension: “Guys, we have now come this far in a method and we should not change. We are going to proceed to insist on the means we play and on what has introduced us right here. ” And that was what we did.’Of all the gamers, you had been the one who knew Arsenal finest from his years at Tottenham. Did you give any recommendation to your colleagues? Did you inform them that Seaman was enjoying fairly early?—He performed very early as a result of he had gradual centrals and that means he could possibly be conscious of the balls that had been behind the protection. I talked about it to Aragon and Poyet, in order that now and again they would increase their heads. I keep in mind that throughout the match Aragón tried, however we already know that that hitting may be very sophisticated. Along with profitable that closing for us, our households and the Zaragoza followers, they additionally known as me associates from London, followers of Tottenham, to inform me that we needed to beat the ‘gunners’ sure or sure. It was added strain.“What do you bear in mind about the complete setting?”—It was one thing particular, because it was not a sport to make use of. I bear in mind the bus trip from the lodge to the stadium, since the followers, who had made a horrible effort to go to Paris, had been there cheering. I additionally keep in mind that I was speaking to Ian Wright earlier than the sport and that after we had been out on the area, after we had been already ready in the altering room tunnel, the English tried to scare us by screaming. We had been very targeted on what we needed to do and we ignored them. And above all I bear in mind the environment that was on the Zaragoza aspect. When that scarf begins, it takes you on the run. They had been with us for the 120 minutes and ate Arsenal followers.That try at intimidation didn’t cease with simply screaming. What an entrance they made in the first minutes … Nayim, who’s in Zaragoza passing the confinement, heeds Ace’s name to relive that nice goal to Seaman in the Parc des Princes in Paris. On Could 10, 1995, the Aragonese staff raised the European Cup Winners’ Cup to the sky and lifted virtually all Spanish followers from their seats, and 25 years later that feat continues to reside in the reminiscence and coronary heart of all Zaragoza residents. “It was a tricky entrance.” Happily, he didn’t catch me together with his foot on the floor, however an entry was not going to take me out of the most essential sport of my profession. I keep in mind that the referee pressured me to go on a stretcher, however as quickly as I received to the aspect I actually jumped off the desk to go again to play. We knew they had been going to do this, however the staff had so much of character and expertise and that was no drawback for us. In the finish we took management of the sport and they ran fairly behind us.—The consequence of that good sport got here Esnáider’s goal, which was additionally an amazing goal.—It’s a loopy goal, an actual goal. Esnáider was crucial throughout the Recopa’s profession. He scored so much of targets and it was crucial for us to have a striker in that class. He was one of these gamers who, along with targets, transmitted many issues: he didn’t cease preventing towards the central defenders, he left his soul in each sport and to this should be added his expertise and soccer high quality. Any ball that got here to him in situations you knew was going to be harmful. It was key.—Throughout the closing there was a transparent penalty on Pardeza that incomprehensibly the referee didn’t whistle. Have you ever ever thought that with VAR maybe Nayim’s goal would by no means have existed?“For sure that it was whistled.” It was a really clear penalty and I was shocked that they didn’t whistle it. We had been superior throughout the sport. Higuera additionally had alternatives, García Sanjuán one other, Aguado’s header that crashed into the publish after a stoppage by Seaman … If the VAR had existed at the moment, absolutely my goal wouldn’t have existed. We are going to by no means know, since the events normally change relying on the consequence.—The reality is that all the things appeared destined so that you can rating that goal. An instance of that is the alternative of Geli by García Sanjuán, which brought about you to alter bands and be in the proper place at the proper time.—I keep in mind that Victor known as me and advised me to get in the proper sector and go away the left for Geli. The change occurred as a result of Geli was a specialist taking pictures penalties and would have been one of the pitchers. Name it future, name it luck, or name it something, however in the finish that call gave me the alternative to do this.“What was going by means of your thoughts in the final minutes of the extension?” Did you already take into consideration penalties?“Above all, we had been targeted on not giving them choices to succeed in our space and create hazard. And from there, make the soccer that we have now been doing repeatedly. You don’t take into consideration penalties throughout the sport, however about doing all your job properly and, above all, these two issues that I have mentioned. We had been enjoying very properly, we had been reaching the rival space and what we weren’t was superb for the goal. In these final minutes, the most essential factor is that they don’t mark you since you don’t have response time and attempt to rating for the identical motive and so it occurred with the goal, that Arsenal had no response time. It was to attain the goal and whistle the finish. Not even in the finest of our desires would the closing have ended like this.—We arrived at the second of the goal… Was it intuition? Did you see Seaman prematurely?“It’s instinctive.” I raised my head and noticed that each Esnáider and Pardeza could possibly be offside. In that very same gesture I noticed the goalkeeper ahead and I had the ball in good situation to hit him, since he was bouncing. You don’t know why you assume it, however it comes out and that’s what occurred in that motion. There have been a number of elements that made me resolve on the beating.—When the ball entered the goal, did you imagine it?—When I noticed the response of the public and Seaman inside the goal, I went loopy. I was searching for my father and my household in the stands, however in lower than two seconds the companions fell on me. It was an unimaginable feeling that scoring a goal in a European closing and that meant a title. However for me the most lovely factor was not the motion of the goal or the celebration at that second, however the day after, after we returned to Zaragoza. I have by no means skilled something prefer it and I don’t assume I will reside it once more. Properly, let’s see if we go up this 12 months and you’ll expertise one thing comparable.—They are saying that the celebration on the identical day of the sport was the least organized celebration in historical past…-That’s the way it went. I needed to go the anti-doping management, it took me a very long time to get to the lodge and when I arrived there was no one. I had not organized something, not even a dinner, so I went to greet my father after which I seemed for all times to go to dinner with my household as a result of I was terribly hungry after a lot effort. I couldn’t discover a taxi and by probability a bus handed that mentioned Actual Zaragoza and I stopped it. I requested them to please deliver me someplace the place I might have dinner and that was what saved me. And already at the place the place the bus took me, I met a number of colleagues.– Do you stay up for each time you bear in mind the goal?-Undoubtedly. I am very excited to see the smile of individuals who bear in mind what they had been doing at the time. They let you know anecdotes and thank me, when I solely did my job.—And also you keep in mind that goal solely in Zaragoza or in any metropolis you go to?“Wherever I go, they remind me.” I was just lately in Singapore enjoying a veterans match and other people, who got here from so much of locations, from the Maldives to India, stopped by to inform me they remembered the goal. Many individuals who like soccer keep in mind that second.—Do you think about it to be the finest goal seen in a closing?—I can’t say that as a result of there’s Zidane’s goal or Bale’s. There have been lovely targets, however the circumstances of my goal, in the final second of additional time and from midfield, have by no means occurred in a European closing. Folks keep in mind that goal as a result of of these circumstances. Even José Ángel de la Casa, who was the commentator, mentioned there have been ten seconds left for penalties. It was a spectacular second for everybody. Many individuals inform me that they thought, “The place is that this madman going?” I don’t know whether it is the most lovely, however it’s the most particular as a result of of the circumstances.– Proper now, along with Víctor Fernández, he has two of his teammates inside the present Zaragoza, since Loreto is the second coach and Belsué the delegate. What do they let you know about the staff?—The reality is that they are very excited. They undergo and really feel the staff very a lot. We discuss every single day by way of chat, particularly after video games to cheer them on and congratulate them. They’ve hit the key and have been profitable with the signings. Luis Suarez has given us life. That boy who doesn’t catch a chilly or get damage. The staff is aware of what it’s enjoying and the way to do it, it has so much of confidence and earlier than this break it was in unimaginable dynamics. They let you know that it’s a must to proceed and that it’s not executed, they know the way tough the Second Division is, however they are very, very excited.“What do you assume will occur to soccer?” And the way can all this break have an effect on the staff if the competitors lastly resumes?—In the first place I assume that it’s a must to play even behind closed doorways to complete the League. In the finish the situations are the identical for everybody. Maybe the solely drawback that we are able to have, subsequent to Cádiz, is that no area of Segunda anima and fills up like La Romareda. We at residence, with the followers supporting us, we’re a really tough staff to beat. That’s the small drawback, however in any other case we might be on an equal footing. Whoever manages that finest, may have the chance of ascending. There are 5 groups preventing for direct promotion, together with us, and we’re going to see how all that’s managed. It is going to be robust as a result of they will play fairly often, so the depth of the bench goes to be essential. Zaragoza, thank God, have high quality gamers and Victor can play with the minutes that every one has.—What message are you able to ship to Zaragocismo on such a big day as the 25th anniversary of the Recopa?—An important factor is that they have endurance and I ship them so much of encouragement. We are going to return to the streets quickly and after we return, if all the things goes regular and as till now, we are able to have a good time three issues: the 25th anniversary of the Recopa, the promotion to First and, most essential of all, the return to normality. Hopefully quickly they will discover a resolution to this drawback in order that we are able to proceed to make our lives and luxuriate in the little particulars. For me the most essential factor is well being.